diff --git a/SharpLib.csproj b/SharpLib.csproj
index d28658b..85d9064 100644
--- a/SharpLib.csproj
+++ b/SharpLib.csproj
@@ -11,9 +11,12 @@
 		<AutoGenerateBindingRedirects>true</AutoGenerateBindingRedirects>
 		<AllowUnsafeBlocks>true</AllowUnsafeBlocks>
 		<LangVersion>14.0</LangVersion>
-		<Copyright>Copyright 2003..2025 Marc Hernandez</Copyright>
-		<Description>A base set of functionality</Description>
 		<SatelliteResourceLanguages>en</SatelliteResourceLanguages>
+		<Nullable>disable</Nullable>
+		<Nullability>disable</Nullability>
+		<GenerateAssemblyInfo>false</GenerateAssemblyInfo>
+		<GenerateTargetFrameworkAttribute>false</GenerateTargetFrameworkAttribute>
+		<DisableFastUpToDateCheck>true</DisableFastUpToDateCheck>
 
 		<!--
 			I Want to turn this on, but cant yet.  Implementing nullability 1 file at a gime
@@ -22,6 +25,16 @@
 		<NoWarn>$(NoWarn);SYSLIB0050;CS8981; CS8632</NoWarn>
 	</PropertyGroup>
 
+	<PropertyGroup Condition="'$(TargetFramework)' == 'net9.0'">
+		<GenerateAssemblyInfo>false</GenerateAssemblyInfo>
+		<GenerateTargetFrameworkAttribute>false</GenerateTargetFrameworkAttribute>
+	</PropertyGroup>
+
+	<PropertyGroup Condition="'$(TargetFramework)' == 'net10.0'">
+		<GenerateAssemblyInfo>false</GenerateAssemblyInfo>
+		<GenerateTargetFrameworkAttribute>false</GenerateTargetFrameworkAttribute>
+	</PropertyGroup>
+
 	<ItemGroup>
 		<PackageReference Include="Microsoft.CodeAnalysis.CSharp" Version="4.14.0" />
 		<PackageReference Include="Optional" Version="4.0.0" />
diff --git a/Utilities.Interop.cs b/Utilities.Interop.cs
index 33e69be..a175360 100644
--- a/Utilities.Interop.cs
+++ b/Utilities.Interop.cs
@@ -25,6 +25,8 @@
 using System;
 using System.Runtime.CompilerServices;
 
+#if UNSAFE
+
 namespace lib
 {
 	/// <summary>
@@ -163,3 +165,5 @@ namespace lib
 		}
 	}
 }
+
+#endif // UNSAFE
diff --git a/Utilities.cs b/Utilities.cs
index df428a4..1c0e905 100644
--- a/Utilities.cs
+++ b/Utilities.cs
@@ -35,6 +35,7 @@ using System.Security;
 using System.Text;
 using System.Threading;
 
+
 namespace lib
 {
 	/// <summary>
@@ -43,7 +44,6 @@ namespace lib
 	public static class Util
 	{
 
-		/*
     public static string StringJoin( string separator, IEnumerable<object> collectionToConvert )
     {
         return String.Join(separator, collectionToConvert.Select(o => o.ToString()));
@@ -60,7 +60,9 @@ namespace lib
 
         return type.Name;
     }
-		*/
+
+
+		/*
 
 
 		public static string ToString<T>( this IEnumerable<T> collectionToConvert, string separator )
@@ -79,34 +81,35 @@ namespace lib
 
 			return type.Name;
 		}
+		*/
 
 
 
 		/*
-		#if XENKO_PLATFORM_UWP
+#if XENKO_PLATFORM_UWP
 						public static unsafe void CopyMemory(IntPtr dest, IntPtr src, int sizeInBytesToCopy)
 						{
 								Interop.memcpy((void*)dest, (void*)src, sizeInBytesToCopy);
 						}
-		#else
-		#if XENKO_PLATFORM_WINDOWS_DESKTOP
+#else
+#if XENKO_PLATFORM_WINDOWS_DESKTOP
 						private const string MemcpyDll = "msvcrt.dll";
-		#elif XENKO_PLATFORM_ANDROID
+#elif XENKO_PLATFORM_ANDROID
 						private const string MemcpyDll = "libc.so";
-		#elif XENKO_PLATFORM_UNIX
+#elif XENKO_PLATFORM_UNIX
 						// We do not specifiy the .so extension as libc.so on Linux
 						// is actually not a .so files but a script. Using just libc
 						// will automatically find the corresponding .so.
 						private const string MemcpyDll = "libc";
-		#elif XENKO_PLATFORM_IOS
+#elif XENKO_PLATFORM_IOS
 						private const string MemcpyDll = ObjCRuntime.Constants.SystemLibrary;
-		#else
-		#   error Unsupported platform
-		#endif
+#else
+#error Unsupported platform
+#endif
 						[DllImport(MemcpyDll, EntryPoint = "memcpy", CallingConvention = CallingConvention.Cdecl, SetLastError = false)]
-		#if !XENKO_RUNTIME_CORECLR
+#if !XENKO_RUNTIME_CORECLR
 						[SuppressUnmanagedCodeSecurity]
-		#endif
+#endif
 						private static extern IntPtr CopyMemory(IntPtr dest, IntPtr src, ulong sizeInBytesToCopy);
 
 						/// <summary>
@@ -119,7 +122,7 @@ namespace lib
 						{
 								CopyMemory(dest, src, (ulong)sizeInBytesToCopy);
 						}
-		#endif
+#endif
 		*/
 
 
@@ -139,6 +142,7 @@ namespace lib
 
 		}
 
+#if UNSAFE
 
 		/// <summary>
 		/// Compares two block of memory.
@@ -465,6 +469,47 @@ namespace lib
 			Marshal.FreeHGlobal( ( (IntPtr*)alignedBuffer )[-1] );
 		}
 
+		/// <summary>
+		/// Writes the specified T data to a memory location.
+		/// </summary>
+		/// <typeparam name="T">Type of a data to write</typeparam>
+		/// <param name="destination">Memory location to write to.</param>
+		/// <param name="data">The data to write.</param>
+		internal static void UnsafeWrite<T>( IntPtr destination, ref T data )
+		{
+			unsafe
+			{
+				Interop.CopyInline( (void*)destination, ref data );
+			}
+		}
+
+		/// <summary>
+		/// Reads the specified T data from a memory location.
+		/// </summary>
+		/// <typeparam name="T">Type of a data to read</typeparam>
+		/// <param name="source">Memory location to read from.</param>
+		/// <param name="data">The data write to.</param>
+		internal static void UnsafeReadOut<T>( IntPtr source, out T data )
+		{
+			unsafe
+			{
+				Interop.CopyInlineOut( out data, (void*)source );
+			}
+		}
+
+		/// <summary>
+		/// Return the sizeof a struct from a CLR. Equivalent to sizeof operator but works on generics too.
+		/// </summary>
+		/// <typeparam name="T">a struct to evaluate</typeparam>
+		/// <returns>sizeof this struct</returns>
+		internal static int UnsafeSizeOf<T>()
+		{
+			return Interop.SizeOf<T>();
+		}
+
+
+#endif
+
 		/// <summary>
 		/// If non-null, disposes the specified object and set it to null, otherwise do nothing.
 		/// </summary>
@@ -820,43 +865,6 @@ namespace lib
 			Thread.Sleep( sleepTimeInMillis );
 		}
 
-		/// <summary>
-		/// Writes the specified T data to a memory location.
-		/// </summary>
-		/// <typeparam name="T">Type of a data to write</typeparam>
-		/// <param name="destination">Memory location to write to.</param>
-		/// <param name="data">The data to write.</param>
-		internal static void UnsafeWrite<T>( IntPtr destination, ref T data )
-		{
-			unsafe
-			{
-				Interop.CopyInline( (void*)destination, ref data );
-			}
-		}
-
-		/// <summary>
-		/// Reads the specified T data from a memory location.
-		/// </summary>
-		/// <typeparam name="T">Type of a data to read</typeparam>
-		/// <param name="source">Memory location to read from.</param>
-		/// <param name="data">The data write to.</param>
-		internal static void UnsafeReadOut<T>( IntPtr source, out T data )
-		{
-			unsafe
-			{
-				Interop.CopyInlineOut( out data, (void*)source );
-			}
-		}
-
-		/// <summary>
-		/// Return the sizeof a struct from a CLR. Equivalent to sizeof operator but works on generics too.
-		/// </summary>
-		/// <typeparam name="T">a struct to evaluate</typeparam>
-		/// <returns>sizeof this struct</returns>
-		internal static int UnsafeSizeOf<T>()
-		{
-			return Interop.SizeOf<T>();
-		}
 
 		/// <summary>
 		/// Linq assisted full tree iteration and collection in a single line.
diff --git a/bit/Bitwise.cs b/bit/Bitwise.cs
index 73405f5..426f4a0 100644
--- a/bit/Bitwise.cs
+++ b/bit/Bitwise.cs
@@ -5,6 +5,7 @@ using System.Numerics;
 static public class bit
 {
 
+#if UNSAFE
 	public static unsafe TInt ByPointers_DirectInt<TInt, TEnum>( TEnum enumValue )
 	where TInt : IBinaryInteger<TInt>
 	where TEnum : unmanaged, System.Enum
@@ -14,8 +15,6 @@ static public class bit
 #pragma warning restore CS8500 // This takes the address of, gets the size of, or declares a pointer to a managed type
 	}
 
-
-
 	static public bool On<T, E>( T bitfield, E e )
 	where T : IBinaryInteger<T>
 	where E : unmanaged, System.Enum
@@ -26,4 +25,19 @@ static public class bit
 	}
 
 
+#endif
+
+	static public bool On<T, E>( T bitfield, E e )
+	where T : IBinaryInteger<T>
+	where E : unmanaged, System.Enum
+	{
+		// FIX FIX FIX
+		// FIX FIX FIX
+		// FIX FIX FIX
+		// FIX FIX FIX
+		return false;
+	}
+
+
+
 }
diff --git a/Id.cs b/lib/Id.cs
similarity index 99%
rename from Id.cs
rename to lib/Id.cs
index 5954041..e402833 100644
--- a/Id.cs
+++ b/lib/Id.cs
@@ -23,7 +23,7 @@ namespace lib
 
 		// TODO PERF Make span versions of all these functions
 
-		unsafe public static Id<T> Generate()
+		public static Id<T> Generate()
 		{
 			var buf = new byte[8];
 
diff --git a/lib/XmlFormatter2.cs b/lib/XmlFormatter2.cs
index 41cd61d..74316ae 100644
--- a/lib/XmlFormatter2.cs
+++ b/lib/XmlFormatter2.cs
@@ -92,7 +92,7 @@ namespace lib
 		public ser.Types TypesDefault = ser.Types.Fields;
 	}
 
-	public class XmlFormatter2 : IFormatter
+	public class XmlFormatter2
 	{
 
 
diff --git a/logging/Log.cs b/logging/Log.cs
index cf79c53..aea1db5 100644
--- a/logging/Log.cs
+++ b/logging/Log.cs
@@ -9,7 +9,6 @@ using System.Reflection;
 using System.Collections.Concurrent;
 using System.Linq;
 using System.Threading;
-using lib.Net;
 using System.Text;
 //using System.Threading.Tasks;
 
@@ -141,14 +140,14 @@ static public class log
 		// It would be better to use a ManualResetEvent here if waiting is truly needed.
 		Thread.Sleep( 500 ); // Simple wait
 		var processId = Process.GetCurrentProcess().Id;
-		LogGC.PrintRuntimeGCEvents( processId );
+		//LogGC.PrintRuntimeGCEvents( processId );
 	}
 
 	static void StartTracing()
 	{
 		// See above comment
 		Thread.Sleep( 500 );
-		Tracing.TraceLogMonitor.Run();
+		//Tracing.TraceLogMonitor.Run();
 	}
 
 	#endregion // CLR Logging
@@ -825,7 +824,7 @@ static public class log
 
 			StartThread();
 
-			LogGC.RegisterObjectId( s_lock );
+			//LogGC.RegisterObjectId( s_lock );
 
 			info( $"startup END", cat: "log.startup" );
 		}
diff --git a/math/BoundingBoxExt.cs b/math/BoundingBoxExt.cs
index b6a372d..f40ec60 100644
--- a/math/BoundingBoxExt.cs
+++ b/math/BoundingBoxExt.cs
@@ -87,6 +87,7 @@ namespace math
 
             Vec3.TransformCoordinate( ref center, ref world, out Center );
 
+#if UNSAFE
             // Update world matrix into absolute form
             unsafe
             {
@@ -99,7 +100,7 @@ namespace math
                     ++matrixData;
                 }
             }
-
+#endif
             Vec3.TransformNormal( ref extent, ref world, out Extent );
         }
 
diff --git a/math/BoundingSphere.cs b/math/BoundingSphere.cs
index 0ed3933..b9634e7 100644
--- a/math/BoundingSphere.cs
+++ b/math/BoundingSphere.cs
@@ -185,6 +185,7 @@ namespace math
             return CollisionHelper.SphereContainsSphere( ref this, ref sphere );
         }
 
+		#if UNSAFE
         /// <summary>
         /// Constructs a <see cref="math.BoundingSphere"/> that fully contains the given points.
         /// </summary>
@@ -199,7 +200,6 @@ namespace math
                 FromPoints( (IntPtr)pointsPtr, 0, points.Length, lib.Util.SizeOf<Vec3>(), out result );
             }
         }
-
         /// <summary>
         /// Constructs a <see cref="math.BoundingSphere" /> that fully contains the given unmanaged points.
         /// </summary>
@@ -251,7 +251,6 @@ namespace math
             result.Center = center;
             result.Radius = radius;
         }
-
         /// <summary>
         /// Constructs a <see cref="math.BoundingSphere"/> that fully contains the given points.
         /// </summary>
@@ -263,6 +262,7 @@ namespace math
             FromPoints( points, out result );
             return result;
         }
+#endif
 
         /// <summary>
         /// Constructs a <see cref="math.BoundingSphere"/> from a given box.
diff --git a/math/CollisionHelper.cs b/math/CollisionHelper.cs
index a4bd2f0..cd51e09 100644
--- a/math/CollisionHelper.cs
+++ b/math/CollisionHelper.cs
@@ -1474,13 +1474,23 @@ namespace math
             return ContainmentType.Contains;
         }
 
-        /// <summary>
-        /// Determines whether a <see cref="BoundingFrustum" /> intersects or contains an AABB determined by its center and extent.
-        /// Faster variant specific for frustum culling.
-        /// </summary>
-        /// <param name="frustum">The frustum.</param>
-        /// <param name="boundingBoxExt">The bounding box ext.</param>
-        /// <returns><c>true</c> if XXXX, <c>false</c> otherwise.</returns>
+		/// <summary>
+		/// Determines whether a <see cref="BoundingFrustum" /> intersects or contains an AABB determined by its center and extent.
+		/// Faster variant specific for frustum culling.
+		/// </summary>
+		/// <param name="frustum">The frustum.</param>
+		/// <param name="boundingBoxExt">The bounding box ext.</param>
+		/// <returns><c>true</c> if XXXX, <c>false</c> otherwise.</returns>
+
+		public static bool FrustumContainsBox( ref BoundingFrustum frustum, ref BoundingBoxExt boundingBoxExt )
+		{
+			throw new NotImplementedException();
+			throw new NotImplementedException();
+			return false;
+		}
+
+
+#if UNSAFE
         public static bool FrustumContainsBox( ref BoundingFrustum frustum, ref BoundingBoxExt boundingBoxExt )
         {
             unsafe
@@ -1547,5 +1557,7 @@ namespace math
                         }
              */
         }
-    }
+#endif
+
+	}
 }
diff --git a/math/Double2.cs b/math/Double2.cs
index 6c36b27..bcdee60 100644
--- a/math/Double2.cs
+++ b/math/Double2.cs
@@ -18,10 +18,12 @@ namespace math
     [StructLayout( LayoutKind.Sequential, Pack = 4 )]
     public struct Double2 : IEquatable<Double2>, IFormattable
     {
+		#if UNSAFE
         /// <summary>
         /// The size of the <see cref="math.Double2"/> type, in bytes.
         /// </summary>
         public static readonly int SizeInBytes = lib.Util.SizeOf<Double2>();
+		#endif
 
         /// <summary>
         /// A <see cref="math.Double2"/> with all of its components set to zero.
diff --git a/math/Double3.cs b/math/Double3.cs
index 897590e..11d71ba 100644
--- a/math/Double3.cs
+++ b/math/Double3.cs
@@ -17,16 +17,20 @@ namespace math
     [DataStyle( DataStyle.Compact )]
     [StructLayout( LayoutKind.Sequential, Pack = 4 )]
     public struct Double3 : IEquatable<Double3>, IFormattable
-    {
+	{
+#if UNSAFE
+
+
         /// <summary>
         /// The size of the <see cref="math.Double3"/> type, in bytes.
         /// </summary>
         public static readonly int SizeInBytes = lib.Util.SizeOf<Double3>();
+#endif // UNSAFE
 
-        /// <summary>
-        /// A <see cref="math.Double3"/> with all of its components set to zero.
-        /// </summary>
-        public static readonly Double3 Zero = new Double3();
+		/// <summary>
+		/// A <see cref="math.Double3"/> with all of its components set to zero.
+		/// </summary>
+		public static readonly Double3 Zero = new Double3();
 
         /// <summary>
         /// The X unit <see cref="math.Double3"/> (1, 0, 0).
diff --git a/math/Double4.cs b/math/Double4.cs
index afe367c..26c9b6a 100644
--- a/math/Double4.cs
+++ b/math/Double4.cs
@@ -18,15 +18,17 @@ namespace math
     [StructLayout( LayoutKind.Sequential, Pack = 4 )]
     public struct Double4 : IEquatable<Double4>, IFormattable
     {
+#if UNSAFE
         /// <summary>
         /// The size of the <see cref="math.Double4"/> type, in bytes.
         /// </summary>
         public static readonly int SizeInBytes = lib.Util.SizeOf<Double4>();
+#endif // UNSAFE
 
-        /// <summary>
-        /// A <see cref="math.Double4"/> with all of its components set to zero.
-        /// </summary>
-        public static readonly Double4 Zero = new Double4();
+		/// <summary>
+		/// A <see cref="math.Double4"/> with all of its components set to zero.
+		/// </summary>
+		public static readonly Double4 Zero = new Double4();
 
         /// <summary>
         /// The X unit <see cref="math.Double4"/> (1, 0, 0, 0).
diff --git a/math/Int2.cs b/math/Int2.cs
index fbc9613..3118b4b 100644
--- a/math/Int2.cs
+++ b/math/Int2.cs
@@ -41,15 +41,18 @@ namespace math
     [StructLayout( LayoutKind.Sequential, Pack = 4 )]
     public struct Int2 : IEquatable<Int2>, IFormattable
     {
+#if UNSAFE
+
         /// <summary>
         /// The size of the <see cref="math.Int2"/> type, in bytes.
         /// </summary>
         public static readonly int SizeInBytes = lib.Util.SizeOf<Int2>();
+#endif // UNSAFE
 
-        /// <summary>
-        /// A <see cref="math.Int2"/> with all of its components set to zero.
-        /// </summary>
-        public static readonly Int2 Zero = new Int2();
+		/// <summary>
+		/// A <see cref="math.Int2"/> with all of its components set to zero.
+		/// </summary>
+		public static readonly Int2 Zero = new Int2();
 
         /// <summary>
         /// The X unit <see cref="math.Int2"/> (1, 0, 0).
diff --git a/math/Int3.cs b/math/Int3.cs
index 585fb6b..1bc00e5 100644
--- a/math/Int3.cs
+++ b/math/Int3.cs
@@ -41,10 +41,13 @@ namespace math
 	[StructLayout( LayoutKind.Sequential, Pack = 4 )]
 	public struct Int3 : IEquatable<Int3>, IFormattable
 	{
+#if UNSAFE
+
 		/// <summary>
 		/// The size of the <see cref="Int3"/> type, in bytes.
 		/// </summary>
 		public static readonly int SizeInBytes = lib.Util.SizeOf<Int3>();
+#endif // UNSAFE
 
 		/// <summary>
 		/// A <see cref="Int3"/> with all of its components set to zero.
diff --git a/math/Int4.cs b/math/Int4.cs
index bd1b957..80d5192 100644
--- a/math/Int4.cs
+++ b/math/Int4.cs
@@ -35,15 +35,18 @@ namespace math
     [StructLayout( LayoutKind.Sequential, Pack = 4 )]
     public struct Int4 : IEquatable<Int4>, IFormattable
     {
+#if UNSAFE
+
         /// <summary>
         ///   The size of the <see cref = "Int4" /> type, in bytes.
         /// </summary>
         public static readonly int SizeInBytes = lib.Util.SizeOf<Int4>();
+#endif // UNSAFE
 
-        /// <summary>
-        ///   A <see cref = "Int4" /> with all of its components set to zero.
-        /// </summary>
-        public static readonly Int4 Zero = new Int4();
+		/// <summary>
+		///   A <see cref = "Int4" /> with all of its components set to zero.
+		/// </summary>
+		public static readonly Int4 Zero = new Int4();
 
         /// <summary>
         ///   The X unit <see cref = "Int4" /> (1, 0, 0, 0).
diff --git a/math/MathUtil.cs b/math/MathUtil.cs
index de88e4e..a594570 100644
--- a/math/MathUtil.cs
+++ b/math/MathUtil.cs
@@ -79,6 +79,14 @@ namespace math
         /// The code is using the technique described by Bruce Dawson in
         /// <a href="http://randomascii.wordpress.com/2012/02/25/comparing-floating-point-numbers-2012-edition/">Comparing Floating point numbers 2012 edition</a>.
         /// </remarks>
+
+
+        public static bool NearEqual( float a, float b )
+		{
+			return Math.Abs( a - b ) < 0.00001f;
+		}
+
+#if UNSAFE
         public static unsafe bool NearEqual( float a, float b )
         {
             // Check if the numbers are really close -- needed
@@ -102,7 +110,7 @@ namespace math
             const int maxUlp = 4;
             return ( ulp <= maxUlp );
         }
-
+#endif
         /// <summary>
         /// Determines whether the specified value is close to zero (0.0f).
         /// </summary>
diff --git a/math/Matrix.cs b/math/Matrix.cs
index 74448a2..6f14746 100644
--- a/math/Matrix.cs
+++ b/math/Matrix.cs
@@ -44,15 +44,18 @@ namespace math
     [StructLayout( LayoutKind.Sequential, Pack = 4 )]
     public struct Matrix : IEquatable<Matrix>, IFormattable
     {
+#if UNSAFE
+
         /// <summary>
         /// The size of the <see cref="math.Matrix"/> type, in bytes.
         /// </summary>
         public static readonly int SizeInBytes = lib.Util.SizeOf<Matrix>();
+#endif // UNSAFE
 
-        /// <summary>
-        /// A <see cref="math.Matrix"/> with all of its components set to zero.
-        /// </summary>
-        public static readonly Matrix Zero = new Matrix();
+		/// <summary>
+		/// A <see cref="math.Matrix"/> with all of its components set to zero.
+		/// </summary>
+		public static readonly Matrix Zero = new Matrix();
 
         /// <summary>
         /// The identity <see cref="math.Matrix"/>.
@@ -3168,6 +3171,7 @@ namespace math
             return result;
         }
 
+#if UNSAFE
         /// <summary>
         /// Copies a nxm matrix to this instance.
         /// </summary>
@@ -3214,7 +3218,7 @@ namespace math
                 }
             }
         }
-
+#endif
         /// <summary>
         /// Adds two matricies.
         /// </summary>
diff --git a/math/Quaternion.cs b/math/Quaternion.cs
index 5b3284b..9c64a54 100644
--- a/math/Quaternion.cs
+++ b/math/Quaternion.cs
@@ -41,15 +41,18 @@ namespace math
     [StructLayout( LayoutKind.Sequential, Pack = 4 )]
     public struct Quaternion : IEquatable<Quaternion>, IFormattable
     {
+#if UNSAFE
+
         /// <summary>
         /// The size of the <see cref="math.Quaternion"/> type, in bytes.
         /// </summary>
         public static readonly int SizeInBytes = lib.Util.SizeOf<Quaternion>();
+#endif // UNSAFE
 
-        /// <summary>
-        /// A <see cref="math.Quaternion"/> with all of its components set to zero.
-        /// </summary>
-        public static readonly Quaternion Zero = new Quaternion();
+		/// <summary>
+		/// A <see cref="math.Quaternion"/> with all of its components set to zero.
+		/// </summary>
+		public static readonly Quaternion Zero = new Quaternion();
 
         /// <summary>
         /// A <see cref="math.Quaternion"/> with all of its components set to one.
diff --git a/math/UInt4.cs b/math/UInt4.cs
index a86c471..d820c0e 100644
--- a/math/UInt4.cs
+++ b/math/UInt4.cs
@@ -34,10 +34,13 @@ namespace math
     [StructLayout( LayoutKind.Sequential, Pack = 4 )]
     public struct UInt4 : IEquatable<UInt4>, IFormattable
     {
+		#if UNSAFE
+
         /// <summary>
         ///   The size of the <see cref = "UInt4" /> type, in bytes.
         /// </summary>
         public static readonly int SizeInBytes = lib.Util.SizeOf<UInt4>();
+#endif // UNSAFE
 
         /// <summary>
         ///   A <see cref = "UInt4" /> with all of its components set to zero.
diff --git a/math/Vector2.cs b/math/Vector2.cs
index 24ba295..c274571 100644
--- a/math/Vector2.cs
+++ b/math/Vector2.cs
@@ -42,11 +42,12 @@ namespace math
     [StructLayout( LayoutKind.Sequential, Pack = 4 )]
     public struct Vec2 : IEquatable<Vec2>, IFormattable
     {
+#if UNSAFE
         /// <summary>
         /// The size of the <see cref="math.Vec2"/> type, in bytes.
         /// </summary>
         public static readonly int SizeInBytes = lib.Util.SizeOf<Vec2>();
-
+#endif
         /// <summary>
         /// A <see cref="math.Vec2"/> with all of its components set to zero.
         /// </summary>
diff --git a/math/Vector3.cs b/math/Vector3.cs
index 20120fa..7f7123f 100644
--- a/math/Vector3.cs
+++ b/math/Vector3.cs
@@ -43,11 +43,12 @@ namespace math
     [StructLayout( LayoutKind.Sequential, Pack = 4 )]
     public struct Vec3 : IEquatable<Vec3>, IFormattable
     {
+#if UNSAFE
         /// <summary>
         /// The size of the <see cref="math.Vec3"/> type, in bytes.
         /// </summary>
         public static readonly int SizeInBytes = lib.Util.SizeOf<Vec3>();
-
+#endif
         /// <summary>
         /// A <see cref="math.Vec3"/> with all of its components set to zero.
         /// </summary>
diff --git a/math/Vector4.cs b/math/Vector4.cs
index c28968c..ac191a7 100644
--- a/math/Vector4.cs
+++ b/math/Vector4.cs
@@ -42,11 +42,12 @@ namespace math
     [StructLayout( LayoutKind.Sequential, Pack = 4 )]
     public struct Vec4 : IEquatable<Vec4>, IFormattable
     {
+#if UNSAFE
         /// <summary>
         /// The size of the <see cref="math.Vec4"/> type, in bytes.
         /// </summary>
         public static readonly int SizeInBytes = lib.Util.SizeOf<Vec4>();
-
+#endif
         /// <summary>
         /// A <see cref="math.Vec4"/> with all of its components set to zero.
         /// </summary>
diff --git a/math/fn.cs b/math/fn.cs
index 2499dbc..f8ee9b1 100644
--- a/math/fn.cs
+++ b/math/fn.cs
@@ -1,4 +1,3 @@
-using Microsoft.CodeAnalysis.CSharp.Syntax;
 
 using System;
 using System.ComponentModel;
diff --git a/reflect/refl.cs b/reflect/refl.cs
index 348447e..8d93899 100644
--- a/reflect/refl.cs
+++ b/reflect/refl.cs
@@ -196,7 +196,7 @@ static public class refl
 				return first;
 		}
 
-		LogGC.RegisterObjectId( t );
+		//LogGC.RegisterObjectId( t );
 
 		lock( t )
 		{
diff --git a/res/Resource.cs b/res/Resource.cs
index b35c292..5f6b234 100644
--- a/res/Resource.cs
+++ b/res/Resource.cs
@@ -6,7 +6,6 @@ using System.Reflection;
 using System.Collections.Immutable;
 using System.Runtime.CompilerServices;
 using System.Threading;
-using Microsoft.CodeAnalysis; // Note: This was in the original, but seems unused. Keep for now.
 using System.Linq;
 
 #nullable enable
diff --git a/scr/Script.cs b/scr/Script.cs
index 78df00c..5f217f0 100644
--- a/scr/Script.cs
+++ b/scr/Script.cs
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
 #nullable enable
 
 
-
+#if SCRIPTS
 using Microsoft.CodeAnalysis;
 using Microsoft.CodeAnalysis.CSharp;
 using Microsoft.CodeAnalysis.Emit;
@@ -20,43 +20,64 @@ using System.Threading;
 
 public class MemorySourceText : SourceText
 {
-	public override char this[int position] => ' ';
+	private readonly string _content;
+
+	public MemorySourceText(string content = "")
+	{
+		_content = content ?? string.Empty;
+	}
+
+	public override char this[int position] => _content[position];
 
 	public override Encoding? Encoding => Encoding.UTF8;
 
-	public override int Length => 0;
+	public override int Length => _content.Length;
 
-	public override void CopyTo( int sourceIndex, char[] destination, int destinationIndex, int count )
+	public override void CopyTo(int sourceIndex, char[] destination, int destinationIndex, int count)
 	{
+		if (destination == null)
+			throw new ArgumentNullException(nameof(destination));
 
+		if (sourceIndex < 0 || sourceIndex >= _content.Length)
+			throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(nameof(sourceIndex));
+
+		if (destinationIndex < 0 || destinationIndex >= destination.Length)
+			throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(nameof(destinationIndex));
+
+		if (count < 0)
+			throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(nameof(count));
+
+		if (sourceIndex + count > _content.Length || destinationIndex + count > destination.Length)
+			throw new ArgumentException("Source or destination range is out of bounds.");
+
+		_content.CopyTo(sourceIndex, destination, destinationIndex, count);
 	}
 }
 
 
 public class MemoryRefResolver : SourceReferenceResolver
 {
-	public override bool Equals( object? other )
+	public override bool Equals(object? other)
 	{
-		return false;
+		return other is MemoryRefResolver;
 	}
 
 	public override int GetHashCode()
 	{
-		return 0;
+		return typeof(MemoryRefResolver).GetHashCode();
 	}
 
-	private MemoryStream _fakeMS = new MemoryStream();
+	private readonly MemoryStream _fakeMS = new MemoryStream();
 
-	public override string? NormalizePath( string? path, string? baseFilePath ) => path;
+	public override string? NormalizePath(string? path, string? baseFilePath) => path;
 
-	public override Stream OpenRead( string resolvedPath ) => _fakeMS;
+	public override Stream OpenRead(string resolvedPath) => _fakeMS;
 
-	private MemorySourceText _fakeMST = new();
+	private readonly MemorySourceText _fakeMST = new();
 
-	public override SourceText ReadText( string resolvedPath ) => _fakeMST;
-
-	public override string? ResolveReference( string? path, string? baseFilePath ) => path;
+	public override SourceText ReadText(string resolvedPath) => _fakeMST;
 
+	public override string? ResolveReference(string? path, string? baseFilePath) => path;
 }
 
 
@@ -204,7 +225,7 @@ public static class scr
 		CompileFile( filename, ( ass ) => { s_fnAss( ass ); }, ( diags ) => { } );
 	}
 
-	public static void CompileFile( string filename, Action<Assembly> onSuccess, Action<ImmutableArray<Diagnostic>> onFailure, Platform platform = Platform.X86 )
+	public static void CompileFile( string filename, Action<Assembly> onSuccess, Action<ImmutableArray<Diagnostic>> onFailure/* PORT , Platform platform = Platform.X86*/ )
 	{
 		var fullpath = Path.GetFullPath( filename );
 
@@ -215,7 +236,7 @@ public static class scr
 		Compile( sourceText, fullpath, onSuccess, onFailure );
 	}
 
-	public static void Compile( string str, string uniquePath, Action<Assembly> onSuccess, Action<ImmutableArray<Diagnostic>> onFailure, Platform platform = Platform.X86 )
+	public static void Compile( string str, string uniquePath, Action<Assembly> onSuccess, Action<ImmutableArray<Diagnostic>> onFailure /*, Platform platform = Platform.X86*/ )
 	{
 		var sourceText = SourceText.From( str );
 
@@ -223,7 +244,7 @@ public static class scr
 	}
 
 
-	public static void Compile( SourceText sourceText, string uniquePath, Action<Assembly> onSuccess, Action<ImmutableArray<Diagnostic>> onFailure, Platform platform = Platform.X86 )
+	public static void Compile( SourceText sourceText, string uniquePath, Action<Assembly> onSuccess, Action<ImmutableArray<Diagnostic>> onFailure /*, Platform platform = Platform.X86*/ )
 	{
 		string assemblyName = Path.GetRandomFileName();
 
@@ -237,7 +258,7 @@ public static class scr
 		using MemoryStream ms = new();
 		using MemoryStream pdb = new();
 
-		var result = CompileAndEmit( assemblyName, new[] { syntaxTree }, ms, pdb, platform );
+		var result = CompileAndEmit( assemblyName, new[] { syntaxTree }, ms, pdb );
 
 		if( !result.Success )
 		{
@@ -269,7 +290,7 @@ public static class scr
 		}
 	}
 
-	private static EmitResult CompileAndEmit( string assemblyName, SyntaxTree[] syntaxTrees, MemoryStream ms, MemoryStream pdb, Platform platform )
+	private static EmitResult CompileAndEmit( string assemblyName, SyntaxTree[] syntaxTrees, MemoryStream ms, MemoryStream pdb /*, Platform platform*/ )
 	{
 		MemoryRefResolver memRef = new();
 
@@ -281,7 +302,7 @@ public static class scr
 				options: new CSharpCompilationOptions( OutputKind.DynamicallyLinkedLibrary,
 						sourceReferenceResolver: memRef,
 						optimizationLevel: OptimizationLevel.Release,
-						platform: platform,
+						//platform: platform,
 						specificDiagnosticOptions: new Dictionary<string, ReportDiagnostic>
 						{
 							{ "CS1701", ReportDiagnostic.Suppress }
@@ -358,3 +379,4 @@ public static class scr
 	}
 }
 
+#endif
diff --git a/ser/XmlSer.cs b/ser/XmlSer.cs
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..156422e
--- /dev/null
+++ b/ser/XmlSer.cs
@@ -0,0 +1,838 @@
+using System;
+using System.IO;
+using System.Xml;
+using System.Runtime.Serialization;
+using System.Collections;
+using System.Collections.Generic;
+using System.Reflection;
+using System.Linq;
+using System.Collections.Immutable;
+using System.Net.Sockets;
+using System.Collections.Concurrent;
+using System.Diagnostics;
+using System.Runtime.CompilerServices;
+using System.Linq.Expressions;
+
+namespace ser;
+
+#region Attributes & Enums (Mostly unchanged, ensure these exist)
+
+/*
+
+public CoolClass
+{
+    private string Rare = "Rare Change";
+    private float TestF = 1.0f;
+}
+
+public class Bag
+{
+    public string Owner { get; set; }
+		public CoolClass Cool { get; set; } = new();
+}
+public class BasicTest
+{
+		public Bag MyBag { get; set; } = new();
+}
+
+<root>
+	<MyBag Owner="John" Cool.Rare="Changed" >
+		<Cool TestF="2.5" />
+	</MyBag>
+</root>
+
+
+
+public abstract class Item
+{
+    public int Id { get; set; }
+}
+
+public class Key : Item
+{
+    public int Code { get; set; }
+}
+
+public class Orb : Item
+{
+    private float Power = 1.0f;
+    public bool IsDark = true;
+}
+
+
+
+
+*/
+
+public interface I_Serialize
+{
+	void OnSerialize() { }
+	object OnDeserialize( object enclosing ) => this;
+}
+
+
+[Flags]
+public enum Types
+{
+	Fields = 0b_0001,
+	Props = 0b_0010,
+	Implied = 0b_0100,
+	Explicit = 0b_1000,
+
+
+	None = 0b_0000,
+	Default = Fields,
+	All = Fields | Props,
+}
+
+public class Ser : Attribute
+{
+	public Types Types { get; set; } = Types.Default;
+}
+
+public class Do : Attribute
+{
+}
+
+public class Dont : Attribute
+{
+}
+
+
+public class ChildAttribute : Attribute
+{
+	public string[] Values { get; private set; }
+
+	public ChildAttribute( params string[] values )
+	{
+		this.Values = values;
+	}
+}
+
+public class ChildFieldsAttribute : ChildAttribute
+{
+	public ChildFieldsAttribute( params string[] values ) : base( values ) { }
+}
+
+public class ChildPropsAttribute : ChildAttribute
+{
+	public ChildPropsAttribute( params string[] values ) : base( values ) { }
+}
+
+
+
+public interface ITypeHandler
+{
+	bool CanHandle( TypeInfo typeInfo, XmlElement? elem = null ); // Elem needed for Deser
+	void WriteXml( XmlSer xml, XmlWriter writer, object? obj, string name, Type memberType, bool forceType );
+	object? ReadXml( XmlSer xml, XmlElement elem, Type expectedType, object? existing );
+}
+
+
+
+// --- Enums & Records (Slightly adjusted/renamed) ---
+public enum Datastructure { Tree, Graph }
+public enum BackingFieldNaming { Short, Regular }
+public enum POD { Attributes, Elements }
+public record struct TypeProxy( Func<object, string> fnSer, Func<string, string, object> fnDes );
+
+public record XmlCfg : io.Recorded<XmlCfg>
+{
+	public bool Verbose { get; init; } = false;
+	public Datastructure Structure { get; init; } = Datastructure.Tree;
+	public int Version { get; init; } = 2;
+	public ImmutableDictionary<Type, TypeProxy> Proxies { get; init; } = ImmutableDictionary<Type, TypeProxy>.Empty;
+	public BackingFieldNaming Naming { get; init; } = BackingFieldNaming.Short;
+	public POD POD { get; init; } = POD.Attributes;
+	public ser.Types TypesDefault { get; init; } = ser.Types.Fields;
+	public static XmlCfg Default { get; } = new XmlCfg();
+}
+
+#endregion
+
+#region Reflection & Metadata Cache
+
+public record DependentMember(
+	string Name,  //Prop or field name
+	TypeInfo Enclosing,
+	MemberInfo EnclosingMember
+);
+
+public enum MemberMetaType
+{
+	Invalid,
+	Simple,
+	Composite,
+}
+
+public record MemberMeta(
+		//Base type.
+		Type Type,
+		MemberInfo Info,
+		string XmlName,
+		Func<object, object?> GetValue,
+		Action<object, object?> SetValue,
+		bool IsPodAttribute,
+		bool HasDo,
+		bool HasDont
+);
+
+public record TypeInfo(
+		Type Type,
+		List<MemberMeta> Members,
+		bool IsISerializable,
+		bool IsImm,
+		bool IsProxy,
+		TypeProxy? ProxyDef
+);
+
+public class TypeMetaCache
+{
+	private readonly ConcurrentDictionary<Type, TypeInfo> _cache = new();
+	private readonly XmlCfg _cfg;
+
+	public TypeMetaCache( XmlCfg cfg ) => _cfg = cfg;
+
+	public TypeInfo Get( Type type )
+	{
+		// Expanded in anticpation of more complex ways to specify saves/loads
+
+		if( _cache.TryGetValue( type, out var ti ) )
+			return ti;
+
+		var children = new HashSet<string>();
+
+		var tiNew = BuildTypeInfo( type, children );
+		_cache.AddOrUpdate( type, tiNew, ( t, ti ) => tiNew );
+
+		return tiNew;
+	}
+
+	// Helper to create accessors (using standard reflection - can be optimized)
+	private static Func<object, object?> CreateGetter( MemberInfo mi )
+	{
+		if( mi is FieldInfo fi )
+			return fi.GetValue;
+		if( mi is PropertyInfo pi && pi.CanRead )
+			return pi.GetValue;
+		return _ => null;
+	}
+
+	private static Action<object, object?> CreateSetter( MemberInfo mi )
+	{
+		if( mi is FieldInfo fi )
+			return fi.SetValue;
+		if( mi is PropertyInfo pi && pi.CanWrite )
+			return pi.SetValue;
+		return ( _, _ ) => { };
+	}
+
+
+	// Helper to create accessors (using standard reflection - can be optimized)
+	private static Func<object, object?> CreateGetter( MemberInfo mi, Func<object, object?> getter )
+	{
+		if( mi is FieldInfo fi )
+		{
+			var innerGet = fi.GetValue;
+
+			return obj => innerGet( getter( obj ) );
+		}
+
+		if( mi is PropertyInfo pi && pi.CanRead )
+		{
+			Func<object, object?> innerGet = pi.GetValue;
+
+			return obj => innerGet( getter( obj ) );
+		}
+
+		//		return pi.GetValue;
+
+
+		return _ => null;
+	}
+
+	private static Action<object, object?> CreateSetter( MemberInfo mi, Func<object, object?> getter )
+	{
+		if( mi is FieldInfo fi )
+		{
+			Action<object, object?> innerSet = fi.SetValue;
+
+			return ( obj, value ) => innerSet( getter( obj ), value );
+		}
+
+
+		if( mi is PropertyInfo pi && pi.CanWrite )
+		{
+			Action<object, object?> innerSet = pi.SetValue;
+
+			//return innerSet;
+
+			//var innerSetType = innerSet.GetType();
+			//var isArgs = innerSetType.Metho
+
+
+			return ( obj, value ) =>
+			{
+				var leaf = getter( obj );
+				innerSet( leaf, value );
+			};
+		}
+
+		return ( _, _ ) => { };
+	}
+
+
+	public void AddType( Type type, params string[] children )
+	{
+		var hashChildren = new HashSet<string>( children );
+
+		BuildTypeInfo( type, hashChildren );
+	}
+
+	private TypeInfo BuildTypeInfo( Type type, HashSet<string> children )
+	{
+		if( _cfg.Verbose )
+			log.info( $"Building TypeInfo for {type.Name}" );
+
+		var members = new List<MemberMeta>();
+		bool doImpls, doFields, doProps;
+
+		GetFilters( _cfg.TypesDefault, type, out doImpls, out doFields, out doProps );
+
+
+		var isImm = typeof( io.Obj ).IsAssignableFrom( type );
+
+		var typesAtt = type.GetCustomAttribute<ser.Ser>( true );
+		var serTypes = typesAtt?.Types ?? ser.Types.None;
+
+
+		if( doFields || doImpls )
+		{
+			foreach( var fi in refl.GetAllFields( type ) )
+			{
+				ProcessMember( fi, serTypes.HasFlag( ser.Types.Fields ), children, doImpls, isImm, members );
+			}
+
+
+		}
+
+		if( doProps || doImpls )
+		{
+			foreach( var pi in refl.GetAllProperties( type ) )
+			{
+				ProcessMember( pi, serTypes.HasFlag( ser.Types.Props ), children, doImpls, isImm, members );
+			}
+		}
+
+		var (isProxy, proxyDef) = FindProxy( type );
+
+		//Dont need to sort since we just run through the attributes first, then the nodes
+		//members.Sort( ( a, b ) => ( a.IsPodAttribute.Int < b.IsPodAttribute.Int ) ? 1 : -1);
+
+		return new TypeInfo(
+				type,
+				members,
+				typeof( ISerializable ).IsAssignableFrom( type ) && !typeof( Delegate ).IsAssignableFrom( type ), // Exclude Delegates
+				isImm,
+				isProxy,
+				proxyDef
+		);
+
+	}
+
+	private (bool, TypeProxy?) FindProxy( Type type )
+	{
+		var tryType = type;
+		while( tryType != null && tryType != typeof( object ) )
+		{
+			if( _cfg.Proxies.TryGetValue( tryType, out var proxy ) )
+			{
+				return (true, proxy);
+			}
+			tryType = tryType.BaseType;
+		}
+		return (false, null);
+	}
+
+
+
+
+
+
+	private void ProcessMember( MemberInfo mi, bool doMemberType, HashSet<string> childrenOverridden, bool doImpls, bool isImm, List<MemberMeta> members )
+	{
+		List<string> children = new( childrenOverridden );
+		var (hasDo, hasDont, hasImpl, propName, serTypess) = GetMemberAttributes( mi, out var actualMiForAtts, children );
+
+		if( hasDont )
+			return;
+
+		// TODO MH Change this to a configurable query(s)
+		if( isImm && ( mi.Name == "MetaStorage" || mi.Name == "Fn" ) )
+			return;
+
+
+		if( mi.GetCustomAttribute<NonSerializedAttribute>( true ) != null )
+			return;
+
+		if( !(
+			hasDo |
+			doMemberType |
+			( hasImpl & children.Any() )
+		) )
+			return;
+
+
+		var miType = ( mi is FieldInfo fi ) ? fi.FieldType : ( (PropertyInfo)mi ).PropertyType; // CHANGED (moved up)
+
+		string name = mi.Name;
+		string finalName = name;
+
+		if( !string.IsNullOrEmpty( propName ) )
+		{
+			finalName = ( _cfg.Naming == BackingFieldNaming.Short ) ? propName : name;
+		}
+
+		finalName = refl.TypeToIdentifier( finalName ); // Ensure XML-safe name
+
+		var overiddenName = false;
+
+		var getter = CreateGetter( mi );
+		var setter = CreateSetter( mi );
+
+		var blankHashSet = new HashSet<string>();
+
+		if( hasImpl && children.Any() )
+		{
+			//List<MemberMeta> specialMembers = new();
+			foreach( var childName in children )
+			{
+				var memberInfoArr = miType.GetMember( childName );
+				var miFinal = memberInfoArr?.FirstOrDefault();
+				if( miFinal == null )
+					continue;
+
+				var dependentType = miFinal is FieldInfo fidd ? fidd.FieldType : ( miFinal as PropertyInfo ).PropertyType;
+
+
+				bool isPod = Type.GetTypeCode( dependentType ) != TypeCode.Object;
+
+				//ProcessMember( miFinal, blankHashSet, doImpls, isImm, specialMembers );
+
+				//First this one.  We need the old getter for the setter.
+				setter = CreateSetter( miFinal, getter );
+
+				//Now wrap the getter itself
+				getter = CreateGetter( miFinal, getter );
+
+				var depName = $"{finalName}.{childName}";
+
+				var memberMeta = new MemberMeta(
+		dependentType,
+		miFinal,
+		depName,
+		getter,
+		setter,
+		isPod && _cfg.POD == POD.Attributes,
+		hasDo,
+		hasDont
+				);
+
+				members.Add( memberMeta );
+
+				if( _cfg.Verbose )
+				{
+					log.info( $"{depName} ({mi.Name}) -> {finalName} ({dependentType.Name}) PodAtt: {isPod && _cfg.POD == POD.Attributes}" );
+				}
+
+			}
+
+
+
+			return;
+
+			/*
+			foreach( var childName in children )
+			{
+				var memberInfoArr = miType.GetMember( childName );
+				var miFinal = memberInfoArr?.FirstOrDefault();
+				if( miFinal != null )
+				{
+					realMemberType = ( miFinal is FieldInfo fin ) ? fin.FieldType : ( miFinal as PropertyInfo ).PropertyType;
+
+					getter = CreateGetter( miFinal, getter );
+					setter = CreateSetter( miFinal, setter );
+				}
+			}
+			//*/
+		}
+
+		{
+			// Simplified POD check
+			bool isPod = Type.GetTypeCode( miType ) != TypeCode.Object && !typeof( IEnumerable ).IsAssignableFrom( miType ) || overiddenName;
+
+			members.Add( new MemberMeta(
+				miType,
+				mi,
+				finalName,
+				getter,
+				setter,
+				isPod && _cfg.POD == POD.Attributes,
+				hasDo,
+				hasDont
+		) );
+
+			if( _cfg.Verbose )
+			{
+				log.info( $"{mi.Name} ({miType.Name}) -> {finalName} ({miType.Name}) PodAtt: {isPod && _cfg.POD == POD.Attributes}" );
+			}
+		}
+	}
+
+
+	private void ProcessDepedentMember( Type type, HashSet<string> children, List<MemberMeta> members )
+	{
+	}
+
+
+	private (bool hasDo, bool hasDont, bool hasImpl, string propName, ser.Types serTypess) GetMemberAttributes( MemberInfo mi, out MemberInfo actualMi, List<string> children )
+	{
+		actualMi = mi;
+		string propName = "";
+		bool isBacking = mi.Name.StartsWith( "<" ) && mi.Name.EndsWith( "BackingField" );
+
+		var typesAtt = mi.DeclaringType.GetCustomAttribute<ser.Ser>( true );
+
+		var serTypes = typesAtt?.Types ?? ser.Types.None;
+
+		var doImpls = serTypes.HasFlag( ser.Types.Implied );
+
+		var attDo = actualMi.GetCustomAttribute<ser.Do>() != null;
+		var attDont = actualMi.GetCustomAttribute<ser.Dont>() != null;
+
+
+
+		if( isBacking && mi is FieldInfo )
+		{
+			var gtIndex = mi.Name.IndexOf( '>' );
+			propName = mi.Name.Substring( 1, gtIndex - 1 );
+			var propInfo = mi.DeclaringType?.GetProperty( propName );
+			if( propInfo != null )
+				actualMi = propInfo;
+		}
+
+		var attChildren = actualMi.GetCustomAttribute<ser.ChildAttribute>();
+		if( attChildren != null )
+		{
+			children.AddRange( attChildren.Values );
+		}
+
+		return (
+attDo,
+attDont,
+				doImpls,
+				propName,
+
+				serTypes
+		);
+	}
+
+
+	// --- These helpers are copied/adapted from XmlFormatter2 ---
+
+	private static void GetFilters( ser.Types typesDefault, Type type, out bool doImpls, out bool doFields, out bool doProps )
+	{
+		var typesTodo = type.GetCustomAttribute<ser.Ser>( true )?.Types ?? typesDefault;
+
+		doImpls = typesTodo.HasFlag( ser.Types.Implied );
+		doFields = typesTodo.HasFlag( ser.Types.Fields );
+		doProps = typesTodo.HasFlag( ser.Types.Props );
+	}
+}
+
+public class TypeResolver
+{
+	private readonly ConcurrentDictionary<string, Type?> _cache = new();
+	private readonly Assembly[] _assemblies;
+	private static readonly FormatterConverter _conv = new();
+
+	public TypeResolver()
+	{
+		_assemblies = AppDomain.CurrentDomain.GetAssemblies();
+	}
+
+	public Type Resolve( XmlElement elem, Type? expectedType )
+	{
+		if( elem.HasAttribute( "_.t" ) )
+		{
+			var typeName = elem.GetAttribute( "_.t" );
+			var resolved = FindType( typeName );
+			if( resolved != null )
+				return resolved;
+		}
+		return expectedType ?? typeof( object ); // Fallback needed
+	}
+
+	public Type? FindType( string typeName )
+	{
+		return _cache.GetOrAdd( typeName, tn =>
+		{
+			// Try direct lookup first (might work for fully qualified)
+			var t = Type.GetType( tn );
+			if( t != null )
+				return t;
+
+			// Then search assemblies
+			foreach( Assembly a in _assemblies )
+			{
+				t = a.GetType( tn );
+				if( t != null )
+					return t;
+			}
+			log.warn( $"Could not resolve type: {tn}" );
+			return null;
+		} );
+	}
+
+
+	public object ConvertSimple( string value, Type type )
+	{
+		if( type.IsEnum )
+			return Enum.Parse( type, value );
+		try
+		{
+			return _conv.Convert( value, type );
+		}
+		catch( Exception ex )
+		{
+			object defaultVal = type.IsValueType ? Activator.CreateInstance( type )! : null!;
+			log.warn( $"Conversion failed for '{value}' to {type.Name}: {ex.Message}. Returning default of {defaultVal}({defaultVal.GetType().Name})." );
+			return defaultVal;
+		}
+	}
+}
+
+#endregion
+
+#region XmlSer (Coordinator)
+
+public class XmlSer // : IFormatter
+{
+	internal readonly XmlCfg _cfg;
+	internal readonly TypeMetaCache _meta;
+	internal readonly TypeResolver _resolver;
+	private readonly List<ITypeHandler> _handlers;
+
+	// Per-operation state
+	internal ObjectIDGenerator _idGen = new();
+	internal Dictionary<long, object> _processed = new();
+	private string _streamSource = "";
+
+	public XmlSer( XmlCfg? cfg = null, TypeMetaCache metaCache = null )
+	{
+		var isCustomConfig = cfg != null;
+
+		_cfg = cfg ?? XmlCfg.Default;
+
+		if( _cfg.Verbose )
+		{
+			log.info( $"Config:" );
+			log.info( $"  {log.var( _cfg.Verbose )}" );
+			log.info( $"  {log.var( _cfg.Structure )}" );
+			log.info( $"  {log.var( _cfg.Version )}" );
+			log.info( $"  {log.var( _cfg.Naming )}" );
+			log.info( $"  {log.var( _cfg.POD )}" );
+			log.info( $"  {log.var( _cfg.TypesDefault )}" );
+		}
+
+
+		_meta = metaCache ?? new TypeMetaCache( _cfg );
+
+		_resolver = new TypeResolver();
+
+		_handlers = new List<ITypeHandler>
+						{
+								new ProxyHandler(),
+								new ISerializableHandler(),
+								new PrimitiveHandler(),
+								new CollectionHandler(),
+								new ObjectHandler() // Must be last
+            };
+
+		if( _cfg.Verbose )
+		{
+			log.info( $"Handlers in importance..." );
+			foreach( var h in _handlers )
+			{
+				log.info( $"  {h.GetType().Name}" );
+			}
+
+			log.high( "XmlSer Initialized." );
+		}
+	}
+
+	internal ITypeHandler GetHandler( Type t, XmlElement? elem = null )
+	{
+		var ti = _meta.Get( t );
+		return _handlers.First( h => h.CanHandle( ti, elem ) );
+	}
+
+	// --- Context Helpers ---
+	internal void WriteTypeAttr( XmlWriter writer, Type memberType, Type actualType )
+	{
+		if( memberType != actualType )
+		{
+			writer.WriteAttributeString( "_.t", actualType.FullName );
+		}
+	}
+
+	internal bool HandleGraphWrite( XmlWriter writer, object obj, out bool first )
+	{
+		first = true;
+		if( _cfg.Structure == Datastructure.Graph )
+		{
+			long id = _idGen.GetId( obj, out first );
+			writer.WriteAttributeString( "ref", id.ToString() );
+			if( first )
+				_processed[id] = obj;
+		}
+		return first || _cfg.Structure == Datastructure.Tree; // Write if first or if Tree
+	}
+
+	internal long TrackIfGraph( object obj, XmlElement elem )
+	{
+		long id = -1;
+		bool first;
+		if( _cfg.Structure == Datastructure.Graph )
+		{
+			id = _idGen.GetId( obj, out first );
+			if( elem.HasAttribute( "ref" ) )
+			{
+				id = long.Parse( elem.GetAttribute( "ref" ) );
+			}
+			if( !_processed.ContainsKey( id ) )
+			{
+				_processed[id] = obj;
+			}
+		}
+		return id;
+	}
+
+
+	// --- Deserialization ---
+	public T? Deserialize<T>( Stream stream ) => (T?)Deserialize( stream, typeof( T ) );
+
+	public object? Deserialize( Stream stream, Type? type = null )
+	{
+		_streamSource = stream.ToString() ?? "{null}"; // Basic source, improve as needed
+		_processed.Clear();
+		_idGen = new ObjectIDGenerator();
+
+		using var reader = XmlReader.Create( stream, new XmlReaderSettings { IgnoreWhitespace = true } );
+		XmlDocument doc = new XmlDocument();
+		try
+		{ doc.Load( reader ); }
+		catch( Exception ex ) { log.exception( ex, $"XML Load failed: {ex.Message}" ); return null; }
+
+		if( doc.DocumentElement == null )
+			return null;
+
+		return ReadNode( doc.DocumentElement, type ?? typeof( object ), null );
+	}
+
+	public void DeserializeInto<T>( Stream stream, T obj ) where T : class
+	{
+		_streamSource = stream.ToString() ?? "{null}";
+		_processed.Clear();
+		_idGen = new ObjectIDGenerator();
+
+		using var reader = XmlReader.Create( stream, new XmlReaderSettings { IgnoreWhitespace = true } );
+		XmlDocument doc = new XmlDocument();
+		try
+		{
+			doc.Load( reader );
+		}
+		catch( Exception ex )
+		{
+			log.exception( ex, $"XML Load failed: {ex.Message}" );
+			return;
+		}
+
+		if( doc.DocumentElement == null )
+			return;
+
+		ReadNode( doc.DocumentElement, typeof( T ), obj );
+	}
+
+	internal object? ReadNode( XmlElement elem, Type expectedType, object? existing )
+	{
+		if( elem.HasAttribute( "v" ) && elem.GetAttribute( "v" ) == "null" )
+			return null;
+
+		// 1. Handle refs (if Graph)
+		if( _cfg.Structure == Datastructure.Graph && elem.HasAttribute( "ref" ) )
+		{
+			long id = long.Parse( elem.GetAttribute( "ref" ) );
+			if( _processed.TryGetValue( id, out var obj ) )
+				return obj;
+		}
+
+		// 2. Determine Type & Select Handler
+		var actualType = _resolver.Resolve( elem, expectedType );
+		var ti = _meta.Get( actualType );
+		var handler = _handlers.First( h => h.CanHandle( ti, elem ) );
+
+		// 3. Delegate
+		return handler.ReadXml( this, elem, actualType, existing );
+	}
+
+	// --- Serialization ---
+	public void Serialize( Stream stream, object root )
+	{
+		_processed.Clear();
+		_idGen = new ObjectIDGenerator();
+
+		var settings = new XmlWriterSettings
+		{
+			Indent = true,
+			Encoding = System.Text.Encoding.UTF8, // Use UTF8 for better compatibility
+			OmitXmlDeclaration = true // Often preferred for fragments/storage
+		};
+
+		using var writer = XmlWriter.Create( stream, settings );
+
+		writer.WriteStartDocument();
+		WriteNode( writer, root, "root", root?.GetType() ?? typeof( object ), true ); // Force type on root
+		writer.WriteEndDocument();
+		writer.Flush();
+	}
+
+	internal void WriteNode( XmlWriter writer, object? obj, string name, Type memberType, bool forceType )
+	{
+		if( _cfg.Verbose )
+			log.info( $"Writing {name} ({memberType}) force: {forceType}" );
+
+		if( obj == null )
+		{
+			writer.WriteStartElement( name );
+			writer.WriteAttributeString( "v", "null" );
+			writer.WriteEndElement();
+			return;
+		}
+
+		var actualType = obj.GetType();
+		var ti = _meta.Get( actualType );
+		var handler = _handlers.First( h => h.CanHandle( ti ) );
+
+		try
+		{
+
+			handler.WriteXml( this, writer, obj, name, memberType, forceType || memberType != actualType );
+		}
+		catch( Exception ex )
+		{
+			log.exception( ex, $"{name}({memberType.Name}) forceType: {forceType}" );
+		}
+	}
+}
+#endregion
diff --git a/ser/XmlSer_Core.cs b/ser/XmlSer_Core.cs
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..2ec98c3
--- /dev/null
+++ b/ser/XmlSer_Core.cs
@@ -0,0 +1,159 @@
+
+
+
+using System;
+using System.Collections;
+using System.Collections.Generic;
+using System.Collections.Immutable;
+using System.Linq;
+using System.Reflection;
+using System.Runtime.Serialization;
+using System.Xml;
+
+namespace ser;
+
+
+// --- Primitive Handler ---
+public partial class PrimitiveHandler : ser.ITypeHandler
+{
+	public bool CanHandle( TypeInfo ti, XmlElement? elem )
+	{
+		var typeCode = Type.GetTypeCode( ti.Type );
+		var typeNotObject = Type.GetTypeCode( ti.Type ) != TypeCode.Object;
+		//var isString = ti.Type == typeof( string );
+		return typeNotObject;
+	}
+}
+
+// --- Proxy Handler ---
+public partial class ProxyHandler : ITypeHandler
+{
+	public bool CanHandle( TypeInfo ti, XmlElement? elem ) => ti.IsProxy || ( elem?.HasAttribute( "proxy" ) ?? false );
+}
+
+// --- ISerializable Handler ---
+public partial class ISerializableHandler : ITypeHandler
+{
+	public bool CanHandle( TypeInfo ti, XmlElement? elem ) => ti.IsISerializable;
+}
+
+// --- Collection Handler ---
+public partial class CollectionHandler : ITypeHandler
+{
+	public bool CanHandle( TypeInfo ti, XmlElement? elem ) =>
+			typeof( IEnumerable ).IsAssignableFrom( ti.Type );
+
+	private Type GetElementType( Type collectionType )
+	{
+		if( collectionType.IsArray )
+			return collectionType.GetElementType()!;
+		if( collectionType.IsGenericType )
+		{
+			var args = collectionType.GetGenericArguments();
+			if( args.Length == 1 )
+				return args[0];
+			if( args.Length == 2 )
+				return typeof( KeyValuePair<,> ).MakeGenericType( args );
+		}
+		return typeof( object ); // Fallback
+	}
+
+	private object ConvertToFinalCollection( IList list, Type expectedType, Type elemType )
+	{
+		if( expectedType.IsArray )
+		{
+			var arr = Array.CreateInstance( elemType, list.Count );
+			list.CopyTo( arr, 0 );
+			return arr;
+		}
+		if( expectedType.IsGenericType )
+		{
+			var genDef = expectedType.GetGenericTypeDefinition();
+			if( genDef == typeof( ImmutableArray<> ) )
+			{
+				var method = typeof( ImmutableArray ).GetMethods()
+						.First( m => m.Name == "ToImmutableArray" && m.GetParameters().Length == 1 && m.GetParameters()[0].ParameterType.IsGenericType && m.GetParameters()[0].ParameterType.GetGenericTypeDefinition() == typeof( IEnumerable<> ) )
+						.MakeGenericMethod( elemType );
+				return method.Invoke( null, new object[] { list } )!;
+			}
+			if( genDef == typeof( ImmutableList<> ) )
+			{
+				var method = typeof( ImmutableList ).GetMethods()
+						.First( m => m.Name == "ToImmutableList" && m.GetParameters().Length == 1 && m.GetParameters()[0].ParameterType.IsGenericType && m.GetParameters()[0].ParameterType.GetGenericTypeDefinition() == typeof( IEnumerable<> ) )
+						.MakeGenericMethod( elemType );
+				return method.Invoke( null, new object[] { list } )!;
+			}
+			// Add more immutable/dictionary handlers here (using MakeImmutableDictionary etc.)
+		}
+		return list; // Default to List<T> if no specific match
+	}
+}
+
+
+// --- Object Handler (Default/Complex) ---
+public partial class ObjectHandler : ITypeHandler
+{
+	public bool CanHandle( TypeInfo ti, XmlElement? elem ) => true; // Fallback
+
+	private (XmlNode? source, bool isAttribute) FindValueSource( XmlElement parent, string name )
+	{
+		if( parent.HasAttribute( name ) )
+		{
+			return (parent.Attributes[name], true);
+		}
+		foreach( XmlNode node in parent.ChildNodes )
+		{
+			if( node.NodeType == XmlNodeType.Element && node.Name == name )
+			{
+				return (node, false);
+			}
+		}
+		return (null, false);
+	}
+
+	private bool ShouldSetValue( MemberMeta member, bool isHydrating )
+	{
+		// [Dont] members are filtered out during metadata generation.
+		// If a member is present in the metadata and a value is found in the XML,
+		// we should always set it. This handles both new creation and hydration/merge.
+		return true;
+
+	}
+
+
+	private (object? obj, long id) GetOrCreateInstance( XmlSer xml, XmlElement elem, Type type, object? existing )
+	{
+		long id = -1;
+		bool first = true;
+
+		// Check existing
+		if( existing != null && type.IsAssignableFrom( existing.GetType() ) )
+		{
+			id = xml._idGen.GetId( existing, out first );
+			return (existing, id);
+		}
+
+		// Create new
+		object? newObj = null;
+		try
+		{
+			if( type.GetConstructor( Type.EmptyTypes ) != null )
+			{
+				newObj = Activator.CreateInstance( type );
+			}
+			else
+			{
+				newObj = FormatterServices.GetUninitializedObject( type );
+			}
+		}
+		catch( Exception ex )
+		{
+			log.exception( ex, $"Failed to create instance of {type.Name}: {ex.Message}" );
+			return (null, -1);
+		}
+
+		id = xml._idGen.GetId( newObj, out first );
+		return (newObj, id);
+	}
+}
+
diff --git a/ser/XmlSer_Read.cs b/ser/XmlSer_Read.cs
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..2742153
--- /dev/null
+++ b/ser/XmlSer_Read.cs
@@ -0,0 +1,188 @@
+
+
+
+using System;
+using System.Collections;
+using System.Collections.Generic;
+using System.Collections.Immutable;
+using System.Linq;
+using System.Reflection;
+using System.Runtime.Serialization;
+using System.Xml;
+
+namespace ser;
+
+
+// --- Primitive Handler ---
+public partial class PrimitiveHandler : ser.ITypeHandler
+{
+	public object? ReadXml( XmlSer xml, XmlElement elem, Type expectedType, object? existing )
+	{
+		string val = elem.HasAttribute( "v" ) ? elem.GetAttribute( "v" ) : elem.InnerText;
+		if( val == "null" )
+			return null;
+
+		// So this is an interesting one. Why not use the expected type? Well, we know we have
+		// data in the XML, it just wont convert to what we want.
+		return xml._resolver.ConvertSimple( val, expectedType );
+	}
+}
+
+// --- Proxy Handler ---
+public partial class ProxyHandler : ITypeHandler
+{
+	public object? ReadXml( XmlSer xml, XmlElement elem, Type expectedType, object? existing )
+	{
+		var ti = xml._meta.Get( expectedType ); // Re-get to ensure we have proxy info
+		if( !elem.HasAttribute( "proxy" ) || !ti.ProxyDef.HasValue )
+		{
+			log.warn( $"Proxy read failed for {expectedType.Name}. Fallback needed." );
+			return null; // Should fall back or throw
+		}
+		var proxyVal = elem.GetAttribute( "proxy" );
+		return ti.ProxyDef.Value.fnDes( expectedType.FullName, proxyVal );
+	}
+}
+
+// --- ISerializable Handler ---
+public partial class ISerializableHandler : ITypeHandler
+{
+	public object? ReadXml( XmlSer xml, XmlElement elem, Type expectedType, object? existing )
+	{
+		// Create/Get instance (needs FormatterServices for ISerializable)
+		object obj = existing ?? FormatterServices.GetUninitializedObject( expectedType );
+		long id = xml.TrackIfGraph( obj, elem ); // Track it
+
+		var serInfo = new SerializationInfo( expectedType, new FormatterConverter() );
+
+		foreach( XmlNode objNode in elem.ChildNodes )
+		{
+			if( objNode is XmlElement childElem )
+			{
+				string childName = childElem.Name;
+				Type? childType = xml._resolver.FindType( childElem.GetAttribute( "_.t" ) );
+				if( childType != null )
+				{
+					var desValue = xml.ReadNode( childElem, childType, null );
+					serInfo.AddValue( childName, desValue, childType );
+				}
+			}
+		}
+
+		var context = new StreamingContext( StreamingContextStates.All ); // Or use xml.Context
+		var cons = expectedType.GetConstructor(
+				BindingFlags.Instance | BindingFlags.Public | BindingFlags.NonPublic,
+				null, new[] { typeof( SerializationInfo ), typeof( StreamingContext ) }, null );
+
+		if( cons != null )
+		{
+			cons.Invoke( obj, new object[] { serInfo, context } );
+		}
+		else
+		{
+			log.error( $"ISerializable type {expectedType.Name} lacks the required constructor." );
+		}
+
+		if( obj is IDeserializationCallback cb )
+			cb.OnDeserialization( obj );
+
+		return obj;
+	}
+}
+
+// --- Collection Handler ---
+public partial class CollectionHandler : ITypeHandler
+{
+
+	public object? ReadXml( XmlSer xml, XmlElement elem, Type expectedType, object? existing )
+	{
+		// Determine element type
+		Type elemType = GetElementType( expectedType );
+
+		// Create a temporary list
+		var listType = typeof( List<> ).MakeGenericType( elemType );
+		var list = (IList)Activator.CreateInstance( listType )!;
+
+		xml.TrackIfGraph( list, elem ); // Track list if graph
+
+		// Populate the list
+		foreach( XmlNode node in elem.ChildNodes )
+		{
+			if( node is XmlElement childElem )
+			{
+				list.Add( xml.ReadNode( childElem, elemType, null ) );
+			}
+		}
+
+		// Convert to the final expected type (Array, Immutable*, List)
+		return ConvertToFinalCollection( list, expectedType, elemType );
+	}
+}
+
+
+// --- Object Handler (Default/Complex) ---
+public partial class ObjectHandler : ITypeHandler
+{
+	public object? ReadXml( XmlSer xml, XmlElement elem, Type expectedType, object? existing )
+	{
+		var actualType = xml._resolver.Resolve( elem, expectedType );
+		var ti = xml._meta.Get( actualType );
+
+		// 1. Get/Create Instance
+		var (obj, _) = GetOrCreateInstance( xml, elem, actualType, existing );
+		if( obj == null )
+			return null;
+
+		// Handle graph refs (if already processed)
+		if( xml._cfg.Structure == Datastructure.Graph && elem.HasAttribute( "ref" ) )
+		{
+			long id = long.Parse( elem.GetAttribute( "ref" ) );
+			if( xml._processed.TryGetValue( id, out var processedObj ) )
+				return processedObj;
+		}
+
+		// Track if it's new
+		xml.TrackIfGraph( obj, elem );
+
+		// 2. Hydrate
+		foreach( var memberMeta in ti.Members )
+		{
+
+
+
+			{
+				var (valueSource, isAttribute) = FindValueSource( elem, memberMeta.XmlName );
+
+				if( valueSource != null )
+				{
+					object? memberValue;
+					object? currentMemberValue = memberMeta.GetValue( obj );
+
+					if( isAttribute )
+					{
+						memberValue = xml._resolver.ConvertSimple( valueSource.Value!, memberMeta.Type );
+					}
+					else // Child Element
+					{
+						memberValue = xml.ReadNode( (XmlElement)valueSource, memberMeta.Type, currentMemberValue );
+					}
+
+					// Set value, respecting ser.Do/ser.Dont and pre-hydration
+					if( ShouldSetValue( memberMeta, existing != null ) )
+					{
+						memberMeta.SetValue( obj, memberValue );
+					}
+				}
+			}
+		}
+
+		// 3. Post-processing
+		if( obj is ser.I_Serialize iSer )
+			obj = iSer.OnDeserialize( null );
+		if( ti.IsImm && obj is io.Obj immObj )
+			return immObj.Record( $"From XML {elem.Name}" );
+
+		return obj;
+	}
+}
+
diff --git a/ser/XmlSer_Tests.cs b/ser/XmlSer_Tests.cs
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..428f57b
--- /dev/null
+++ b/ser/XmlSer_Tests.cs
@@ -0,0 +1,133 @@
+using System;
+using System.Diagnostics;
+using System.IO;
+using System.Net;
+using System.Net.Sockets;
+using System.Text;
+//using Org.BouncyCastle.Crypto.IO;
+
+namespace ser;
+
+
+public record class SimpleImmutable( string Name, int Age ) : io.Timed<SimpleImmutable>;
+
+static public class Test
+{
+
+	public class ExternalClass
+	{
+		public string ActualProperty { get; set; } = "test_ActualProperty_set_inline";
+		//public string ActualProperty_NotSerialized { get; set; } = "ActualProperty_NotSerialized";
+	}
+
+	[ser.Ser( Types = ser.Types.Implied )]
+	public partial class LeaveWithExternalClasss
+	{
+
+		//[ser.Do]
+		//public bool _cccwp_doBool = true;
+
+		[ser.ChildPropsAttribute( "ActualProperty" )]
+		public ExternalClass _leaf_external = new();
+
+		//public string _cccwp_doNotSerialize = "test_do_not_serialize";
+
+	}
+
+	[ser.Ser]
+	public class TrunkClass
+	{
+		public LeaveWithExternalClasss _trunk_leaf = new();
+		//public int _chf_test = 10;
+		//private string _chf_priv_string = "test_priv_string";
+	};
+
+	public static void Serialization()
+	{
+		ser.XmlCfg cfg = new()
+		{
+			Verbose = true,
+		};
+
+		ser.TypeMetaCache metaCache = new( cfg );
+		//metaCache.AddType( typeof( ClassContainsClassWithProp ), "ActualProperty" );
+
+
+
+
+		TrunkClass trunk = new()
+		{
+			_trunk_leaf = new()
+			{
+				_leaf_external = new()
+				{
+					ActualProperty = "ActualProperty_set_in_cons"
+				}
+			}
+		};
+
+		Debug.Assert( trunk._trunk_leaf._leaf_external.ActualProperty == "ActualProperty_set_in_cons" );
+
+
+		var memStream = new MemoryStream();
+
+		{
+			var xml = new ser.XmlSer( cfg, metaCache );
+			xml.Serialize( memStream, trunk );
+		}
+
+		memStream.Position = 0;
+
+		var strXml = System.Text.Encoding.UTF8.GetString( memStream.ToArray() );
+
+		var badXml = "<root>\n  <prop doBool=\"True\" />\n</root>";
+		///*
+		var badXml_02 = @"""<root>
+  <prop doBool=""True"">
+    <propHolder>
+      <ActualProperty ActualProperty=""ActualProperty_set_in_cons"" />
+      <ActualProperty_NotSerialized ActualProperty_NotSerialized=""ActualProperty_NotSerialized"" />
+    </propHolder>
+    <doNotSerialize doNotSerialize=""test_do_not_serialize"" />
+  </prop>
+</root>""";
+		//*/
+		Debug.Assert( strXml != badXml );
+
+		memStream.Position = 0;
+
+		var classHasFields2 = new TrunkClass();
+		//classHasFields2._chf_prop._cccwp_propHolder.ActualProperty_NotSerialized = "ActualProperty_NotSerialized_set_in_test_01";
+
+		Debug.Assert( trunk._trunk_leaf._leaf_external.ActualProperty == "test_ActualProperty_set_inline" );
+		//Debug.Assert( classHasFields2._chf_prop._cccwp_propHolder.ActualProperty_NotSerialized == "ActualProperty_NotSerialized" );
+
+
+		{
+			var xml = new ser.XmlSer( cfg, metaCache );
+			classHasFields2 = xml.Deserialize<TrunkClass>( memStream );
+		}
+
+
+		Debug.Assert( trunk._trunk_leaf._leaf_external.ActualProperty == "test_ActualProperty_set_inline" );
+		//Debug.Assert( classHasFields2._chf_prop._cccwp_propHolder.ActualProperty_NotSerialized == "ActualProperty_NotSerialized_set_in_test_01" );
+
+		memStream.Position = 0;
+
+		var classHasFields3 = new TrunkClass();
+
+		{
+			var xml = new ser.XmlSer( cfg, metaCache );
+			xml.DeserializeInto( memStream, classHasFields3 );
+		}
+
+		Debug.Assert( trunk._trunk_leaf._leaf_external.ActualProperty == "test_ActualProperty_set_inline" );
+		//Debug.Assert( classHasFields3._chf_prop._cccwp_propHolder.ActualProperty_NotSerialized == "ActualProperty_NotSerialized_set_in_test_01" );
+
+
+	}
+
+
+
+}
+
diff --git a/ser/XmlSer_Write.cs b/ser/XmlSer_Write.cs
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..77758cb
--- /dev/null
+++ b/ser/XmlSer_Write.cs
@@ -0,0 +1,201 @@
+
+
+
+using System;
+using System.Collections;
+using System.Collections.Generic;
+using System.Collections.Immutable;
+using System.Linq;
+using System.Reflection;
+using System.Runtime.Serialization;
+using System.Xml;
+
+namespace ser;
+
+
+// --- Primitive Handler ---
+public partial class PrimitiveHandler : ser.ITypeHandler
+{
+	public void WriteXml( XmlSer xml, XmlWriter writer, object? obj, string name, Type memberType, bool forceType )
+	{
+		if( obj == null )
+		{
+			writer.WriteStartElement( name );
+			writer.WriteAttributeString( "v", "null" );
+			writer.WriteEndElement();
+			return;
+		}
+
+		bool writeElements = xml._cfg.POD == POD.Elements || forceType || !( writer is XmlTextWriter );
+		if( !writeElements && writer is XmlTextWriter tw )
+			writeElements = tw.WriteState != WriteState.Element;
+
+		if( writeElements )
+			writer.WriteStartElement( name );
+
+		if( forceType || xml._cfg.POD == POD.Elements )
+		{
+			if( forceType )
+				writer.WriteAttributeString( "_.t", obj.GetType().FullName );
+
+			writer.WriteAttributeString( "v", obj.ToString() );
+		}
+		else
+		{
+			writer.WriteAttributeString( name, obj.ToString() );
+		}
+
+		if( writeElements )
+			writer.WriteEndElement();
+	}
+}
+
+// --- Proxy Handler ---
+public partial class ProxyHandler : ITypeHandler
+{
+	public void WriteXml( XmlSer xml, XmlWriter writer, object? obj, string name, Type memberType, bool forceType )
+	{
+		if( obj == null )
+		{ xml.GetHandler( typeof( object ) ).WriteXml( xml, writer, null, name, memberType, forceType ); return; }
+
+		var ti = xml._meta.Get( obj.GetType() );
+		if( !ti.ProxyDef.HasValue )
+		{ log.error( "Proxy write called without proxy def!" ); return; }
+
+		writer.WriteStartElement( name );
+		var proxyStr = ti.ProxyDef.Value.fnSer( obj );
+
+		// TODO: Allow arbitrary writing here
+		writer.WriteAttributeString( "proxy", proxyStr );
+		writer.WriteEndElement();
+	}
+}
+
+// --- ISerializable Handler ---
+public partial class ISerializableHandler : ITypeHandler
+{
+	public void WriteXml( XmlSer xml, XmlWriter writer, object? obj, string name, Type memberType, bool forceType )
+	{
+		if( obj == null )
+		{ /* Write null */ return; }
+		if( !( obj is ISerializable serObj ) )
+		{ /* Error */ return; }
+
+		writer.WriteStartElement( name );
+		xml.WriteTypeAttr( writer, memberType, obj.GetType() );
+
+		if( xml.HandleGraphWrite( writer, obj, out bool first ) )
+		{
+			if( first )
+			{
+				var serInfo = new SerializationInfo( obj.GetType(), new FormatterConverter() );
+				var context = new StreamingContext( StreamingContextStates.All );
+				serObj.GetObjectData( serInfo, context );
+
+				foreach( var member in serInfo )
+				{
+					xml.WriteNode( writer, member.Value, refl.TypeToIdentifier( member.Name ), member.ObjectType, true ); // Force type for ISer
+				}
+			}
+		}
+		writer.WriteEndElement();
+	}
+}
+
+// --- Collection Handler ---
+public partial class CollectionHandler : ITypeHandler
+{
+	public void WriteXml( XmlSer xml, XmlWriter writer, object? obj, string name, Type memberType, bool forceType )
+	{
+		if( obj == null )
+		{ /* Write null */ return; }
+		if( !( obj is IEnumerable collection ) )
+		{ /* Error */ return; }
+
+		writer.WriteStartElement( name );
+		xml.WriteTypeAttr( writer, memberType, obj.GetType() );
+
+		if( xml.HandleGraphWrite( writer, obj, out bool first ) )
+		{
+			if( first )
+			{
+				Type elemType = GetElementType( obj.GetType() );
+				int i = 0;
+				foreach( var item in collection )
+				{
+					xml.WriteNode( writer, item, $"i{i++}", elemType, false );
+				}
+			}
+		}
+		writer.WriteEndElement();
+	}
+}
+
+
+// --- Object Handler (Default/Complex) ---
+public partial class ObjectHandler : ITypeHandler
+{
+	public void WriteXml( XmlSer xml, XmlWriter writer, object? obj, string name, Type memberType, bool forceType )
+	{
+		if( obj == null )
+		{ /* Write null */ return; }
+
+		writer.WriteStartElement( name );
+		xml.WriteTypeAttr( writer, memberType, obj.GetType() );
+		var ti = xml._meta.Get( obj.GetType() );
+
+		if( xml.HandleGraphWrite( writer, obj, out bool first ) )
+		{
+			if( first )
+			{
+				foreach( var memberMeta in ti.Members )
+				{
+					if( !memberMeta.IsPodAttribute )
+						continue;
+
+					var value = memberMeta.GetValue( obj );
+					if( value != null )
+					{
+						try
+						{
+							writer.WriteAttributeString( memberMeta.XmlName, value.ToString() );
+						}
+						catch( Exception ex )
+						{
+							log.exception( ex, $"Writing Att {memberMeta.XmlName} = [{value}]" );
+						}
+					}
+				}
+
+
+				foreach( var memberMeta in ti.Members )
+				{
+					if( memberMeta.IsPodAttribute )
+						continue;
+
+					var value = memberMeta.GetValue( obj );
+					if( value != null )
+					{
+						try
+						{
+							xml.WriteNode( writer, value, memberMeta.XmlName, memberMeta.Type, false );
+						}
+						catch( Exception ex )
+						{
+							log.exception( ex, $"Writing Node {memberMeta.XmlName} = [{value}]" );
+						}
+					}
+
+
+				}
+
+
+
+
+			}
+		}
+
+		writer.WriteEndElement();
+	}
+}
+
diff --git a/sharplib.sln b/sharplib.sln
deleted file mode 100644
index 4af1880..0000000
--- a/sharplib.sln
+++ /dev/null
@@ -1,25 +0,0 @@
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-EndProject
-Global
-	GlobalSection(SolutionConfigurationPlatforms) = preSolution
-		Debug|Any CPU = Debug|Any CPU
-		Release|Any CPU = Release|Any CPU
-	EndGlobalSection
-	GlobalSection(ProjectConfigurationPlatforms) = postSolution
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-		{CC1801F8-7270-47A2-AF73-CCE2900549A9}.Debug|Any CPU.Build.0 = Debug|Any CPU
-		{CC1801F8-7270-47A2-AF73-CCE2900549A9}.Release|Any CPU.ActiveCfg = Release|Any CPU
-		{CC1801F8-7270-47A2-AF73-CCE2900549A9}.Release|Any CPU.Build.0 = Release|Any CPU
-	EndGlobalSection
-	GlobalSection(SolutionProperties) = preSolution
-		HideSolutionNode = FALSE
-	EndGlobalSection
-	GlobalSection(ExtensibilityGlobals) = postSolution
-		SolutionGuid = {E2F905DE-69F3-48F3-943C-B8544945C2E9}
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-EndGlobal
diff --git a/sharplib_be.sln b/sharplib_be.sln
deleted file mode 100644
index 1099e88..0000000
--- a/sharplib_be.sln
+++ /dev/null
@@ -1,25 +0,0 @@
-
-Microsoft Visual Studio Solution File, Format Version 12.00
-# Visual Studio Version 17
-VisualStudioVersion = 17.5.002.0
-MinimumVisualStudioVersion = 10.0.40219.1
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-EndProject
-Global
-	GlobalSection(SolutionConfigurationPlatforms) = preSolution
-		Debug|Any CPU = Debug|Any CPU
-		Release|Any CPU = Release|Any CPU
-	EndGlobalSection
-	GlobalSection(ProjectConfigurationPlatforms) = postSolution
-		{8D6C0DEE-23AB-41CA-99B0-4575ECBB41F6}.Debug|Any CPU.ActiveCfg = Debug|Any CPU
-		{8D6C0DEE-23AB-41CA-99B0-4575ECBB41F6}.Debug|Any CPU.Build.0 = Debug|Any CPU
-		{8D6C0DEE-23AB-41CA-99B0-4575ECBB41F6}.Release|Any CPU.ActiveCfg = Release|Any CPU
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diff --git a/time/Time.cs b/time/Time.cs
index 3ce825e..ee14811 100644
--- a/time/Time.cs
+++ b/time/Time.cs
@@ -3,6 +3,8 @@
 
 
 
+using System;
+
 namespace time;
 
 
diff --git a/util/Exec.cs b/util/Exec.cs
index 136e398..d0f77ca 100644
--- a/util/Exec.cs
+++ b/util/Exec.cs
@@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
 
 
 
+using System;
 using System.Diagnostics;
 
 namespace lib;